Linux Outlaws 295 – Veneering the Planet

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Klaus Kinski is Fab in "Linux Outlaws"
Klaus Kinski is Fab in “Linux Outlaws”


1:17:41 Gaming Corner

The Atari 2600
The Atari 2600

 1:31:29 FEEDBACK

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  1. Bernd says:

    “Nobody outside Germany knows how to bake a fucking bread. And I’m serious – Nobody!”

    That’s not right. In Austria we also know how to bake great bread. That’s also one thing I miss when I’m not in Austria. Because everywhere else you only get white bread like sandwiches, but that’s not comparable with good bread!

  2. fabsh says:

    Yeah, true. I tend to lump you guys in with Germany. I mean, you were the fucking Emperors of the place for a pretty long while. It’s only since Bismarck that you guys always deny you are German.


  3. peschmae says:

    I agree with most that was said with respect to open access.

    However I would like to point out that some publishers explicitly give the authors permission to post the published version on their own or their institution’s website (for instance AIP

    Many others – including Elsevier – explicitly allow publishing of author-formatted preprints (Elsevier:, Nature:

    The fact that most authors don’t do this is, I guess, due to a variety of reasons such as lazyness, lack of awareness, institutional rules, and many others …

    Also authors do not have to pay to publish in Nature, or most other journals. Though typically there are fees for publishing color figures (which admittedly are kind of mandatory for a Nature publication these days). And there are fees for open access publications for the increasing number of journals that do offer such an option…

  4. Wub says:

    Next time you’re in San Francisco, get a loaf of real sourdough bread. I’d be interested to hear how it stacks up against the bread of your youth from Germany (and Austria). The crust will be every bit as tough as you like it, and the special flavor of sourdough is very distinctive. This flavor arises due to a special strain of lactobacillus that grows with the yeast in the starter, and is said not to grow well in other regions. Whatever. This is damn good bread.

  5. Wub says:

    ArXiv is yet another cute name, the ‘X’ is the Greek letter ‘chi’, so they intend you to say ‘archive’ (sorry, I don’t know the international phonetic spelling).

    I went through academics in the late 70s/early 80’s and things have changed somewhat, but the journal publishing rape seems to have continued. My school had to choose journals carefully in order to keep within budget but still offer the journals we needed to read to stay current. Subscriptions prices are very high. EMBO’s journals cost 216 dollars/year for online access – each! For what? Access to a server for downloads? The articles arrive ready to download from the authors, does it cost that much to keep a server running?

    Publishing a paper incurs ‘page charges’ – they charge a fee for each page in the article, and they are not cheap – I did a quick search and found that EMBO charges 158 pounds/246 dollars per page. In my field in my day, a decent article ran at least 10 pages – and the page charges could be a real drain on a research grant.

    And you are right about the process – the author does all the work, except the review and printing. It only makes sense to have peers doing the review – who else will understand the strengths and weaknesses of cutting edge work? Reviewers are still unpaid as far as I know.

    So the publisher relies on unpaid authors and reviewers, needs to do little or no work to put articles into print and charges through the nose to accept papers and again to distribute them! It’s about fucking time an open system has arisen to challenge this!

    I don’t know much about ArXiv, but I wish them all the best in their endeavors.

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