I know you guys are very busy nowadays and that you find maintaining the forums quite annoying. Anyway...
I am having problems trying to open the forums in non-mainstream browsers, like luakit which I am very fond at the moment. The culprit seems to be in the site's header's content-type element: it is showing as "Content-Type: ; charset=utf-8" instead of "Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8".
Just a heads up in case you get the tme to fix this. Thank you in advance.
I got to say, Fab, your willingness to apologise whatever Red Hat do whilst giving Canonical shit for any (non-)issue that puts freetards in a kerfuffle is starting to chew my contenance away. I don't mind fanboyism, but this is something else. Canonical has to become sustainable, and soon, and nobody forces you to give them the money. I really enjoy the show, but this is irritating. I'm sorry to be so negative, this is doomsday morning gloom. Have a good one!
For starters, Canonical and RedHat are two different companies which are doing very different things. Yes, both need to make profits to survive. Yet, they work differently with the rest of the community.
As a Linux user who uses neither Ubuntu nor Fedora (or RHEL) what I am interesting in is the impact they make into the general Linux's ecosystem. Now, if you consider whatever RedHat does and compares that to Canonical's it comes to no surprise people are less inclined to bash RedHat.
For an example, I'll give you a list of RedHat's latest contributions (when I say RedHat, I mean contributions by people working for RedHat):
- Pulseaudio (not my favourite piece of software, but still)
- The nouveau driver
- udisks, upower, policykit
- And not so new as: hal (deprecated now), d-bus, network manager, cairo, pango, evince, and many more.
Not to mention they are amid top contributors in projects like GNOME, Libreofice, Xorg, the Linux kernel.
Now, while RedHat gave us all this what was Canonical working on? Let's see:
- Ubuntu One
- App indicators
Oh! Surpised? I am not.
Installed/configured the usual suspects: iptables, cron, ssh, cups, sensors, tor, privoxy
Feeling paranoid? I guess I shouldn't be talking, I usually tunnel my web traffic over ssh to my home connection when I'm roaming with my laptop.
Well, the machine is intended to be used outside my home network (which means probably no router firewall). tor + privoxy are there mostly for pianobar (shh... don't tell the Pandora people).
Configured all the usual streams I listen to in SMplayer (LO/RR, TLLTS, RAI radio and my desktop's icecast stream)
My preferred method for quickly accessing streams is bash aliases. For example: "alias linuxloutlaws='mplayer http://live.linuxoutlaws.com:8216/live'". Since I always copy my .bashrc file to new machines anyway, my streaming shortcuts go with it.
That's a neat idea.
Thank you guys for all this valuable information. One week has already passed and I'd like to give you some update.
I began by installing Archbang (other distros may follow later). What mainly motivated this decision was that in the end is just Arch + openbox with an openbox already configured (good for someone like me that only used openbox on distros like Slitasz and Tiny me). This gives me the chance to begin with something that can be tweaked later, instead of having to configure openbox from scratch.
So, what does Archbang provide out-of-the box?:
- Openbox + tint2 + conky
- Wireless already configured thru wicd (and fully functional) -> I got to learn how to configure wicd without having to bang my head.
- vesa driver :-(
- grub2 instead of grub (strange decision)
- everything working as it should (sound, webcam, network, etc.)
- some applications that I am used to: Minitube, Dropbox, Geany, vim, Chromium
- applications I already wanted to try: Thunar, lxterminal, SMplayer
- and last but not least, one of the best package managers out there (yep, pacman)
What did I change and add:
- Installed the intel KMS drivers (easy cheesy as this netbooks' graphic card is already supported)
- Installed/configured the usual suspects: iptables, cron, ssh, cups, sensors, tor, privoxy (alsa was already configured by Archbang's "installer", aka: "launching alsamixer after arch's installer")
- Claws for e-mail (maybe the best e-mail client out there: I am currently using Gmail's IMAP with Claws and it rocks, especially after following this tutorial)
- Claws' vCalendar plugin for managing my Google's calendars -> awesome (and easier, maybe better, than akonadi which I am using on the desktop)
- Configure conky to my liking + the excellent pogodynka script for displaying weather information
- Enabled bookmark syncing using Chromium's native support
- Configured all the usual streams I listen to in SMplayer (LO/RR, TLLTS, RAI radio and my desktop's icecast stream)
- Installed pianobar (with libre.fm scrobbling)
- A bunch of other little configurations/scripts
What I still need to do:
- Tweak some system params: HDD, cpu scaling, etc.
- Update openbox' menu.xml to reflect some of the changes I've made
- Try to find an app launcher (or trick) for tint2
- Install skype (just to show everyone what a freedom hater I am)
- Install irssi (or xchat)
- Try clementine
- Install heybuddy
- Install java? (or maybe not)
- Make a decision about k3b (after trying xfburn)
- More playing, trying and tweaking
What I am not planning to do:
- Install pulseaudio
- Install mono
- Install the flash plugin (I don't seem to be needing it, html5 + minitube are all I need)
I am really happy with everything right now. It is using less than 100 mb of RAm at the moment and an average of 5 % CPU (with a temperature of 46 degrees) and peaks that go to 15% while watching videos using Minitube (way better than my P4 desktop machine).
The only problem I've had until now was that after installing Archbang I lost the ability to boot the small Win7 partition I made, which is the first time I have this kind of problem: it may be related to either grub2 or Win7 itself. But I couldn't care less, as it is there just in case I decide to return/sell this little thing later (it came with no installation disks).
@mr_smatepants: I finally got the model: it is a NAV50 and the graphic card a GMA 3150, which accordingly to the Arch forums is supported since version 2.10 by the xf86-video-intel driver.
@phayz: Why didn't I think about frugalware? :-P It looks pretty awesome and will definitely check it out.
@nailuj and @Rod: I really respect fedora and its community but I really don't like Gnome (and its bastard child Mono) and I don't trust some of its "experimental" projects, like pulseaudio and systemd.
@Theru: That's like music to my ears. Nice to know of a successful Arch+openbox install on a netbook. I may however, begin with archbang (I hope it maintains compatibility with the arch repos and doesn't add much of their own, I wouldn't like to suffer from another kdemod-like incident) if only to get used to openbox and non-KDE applications (I am mostly running KDE apps on my desktop, but want to try something different).
So this leds to ne next question: Which applications can you recommend that wouldn't depend on KDE?
I was thinking:
Browser: chromium (this is what I mostly use today and I think it totally rocks)
Editor (GUI): Geany (better than gedit IMO)
Terminal: I'd like to try something different, so preferably not xterm
Email client: claws or sylpheed (however you spell it)
IRC client: irssi?
FTP client: gftp?
Audio player: I really want to avoid having to install Mono, so Banshee is not an option and Amarok (which I have always used) is KDE, so a no-go.
Video Player: smplayer?
Thank you for all your suggestions. Keep them coming.
Thanks all for your recommendations
@NYbill: crunchbang is one of the distros I am considering (even more now that it is Debian-based). I will try to contact @asphere regarding archbang
@Craig_DT: every comment helps, believe me. I am not planning on using neither Meego nor Gnome, that's for sure.
@notriddle: I don't know. I have always had the impression that "testing" wasn't enough bleeding edge for my taste. I am considering the use of Sid, or some Sid-based distro, like Sidux.
@d-r: Have you tried this page when troubleshooting powersaving on Arch+openbox?
You are tenting me to use KDE on this machine (maybe I give up and try plasma-netbook).
@mr_smartepants: I am not sure what model it is. I'll have to check when I get home. I hope it is not that graphics card that's installed on this netbook.
I am also considering the Debian-based Mint; a pity that it is not based on sid.
Please, keep your suggestions coming.
I finally bought myself an Acer aspire One. It comes with 1 Gb RAM 160 Gb hard disk and a 1.6 Ghz Atom processor (can't remember the exact model right now).
Now I am trying to decide which distro to install on it. I've been thinking about Arch + Openbox. Or maybe giving Archbang a try. However, there are a few decisions I have already made:
- Not to use KDE (that's what I use presently on my desktop machine, I like but I want something lighter and different) nor Gnome (I simply don't like it, sorry).
- Try to stick to a distro that maintains uptodate packages (so, no Debian stable). Preferably a rolling release distro (I hate having to reinstall all the six months).
What other Outlaws would recommend to a netbook newbie?
I liked this new episode, Fab. You sounded calm and cool while still expressing your opinion with passion.
Now on the 3D subject. I agree with most of the comments here: 3D or HD or even color is not a replacement for good story-telling. I love cinema a lot, and have watched some good movies which did not need all this techy stuff. Heck, my favourite movie of all times is Einsenstein's Alexander Nevsky: there are a couple of images that got burnt into my brain forever, like the sky before the battle scene, and the battle itself (the best I have ever watched). That film in itself is pove enough you can do amazing protography on film even on b/w.
Maybe sometime in the future someone will master this new "technique" and use it in a new creative way. Until then, they can't count on me going to a 3D theatre.
I'll stop now, because I can go on forever on this topic and I don't want to bother you.
There is a good side to this trend, though. Now that 3D television is slowly becoming the shit, "normal" HD television prices are beginning to go down. It is like what happens with compouter hardware every time M$ unleashes a new version of their ugly beast: good hardware that is unable to cop with the bloat becomes cheaper.
Anyways, I have a suggestion for warming you up before a rant: engage in a discussion with @lefty on identi.ca. That should put you on the "right" mood.
No Tio Duke yet? This is a record. He must have been killed in the earthquake.
I think he's celebrating their big victory last night....
You are right. And congratulations to you too! (But no wishing of good luck for the next match, sorry.)
The earth quake hit more to the west. In our household the only one that noticed something was my wife: I was at work which is even more to the east.
Anyways, I began listening to this show today on my commute. Nice show so far. Thank you very much Dan and Fab!