Dan said we should stop flaming other distros and accept that we are all on the "team linux"...
I would even broaden that and say, we are all on the team free/open-source systems. I know there are people on Linux who don't like BSD style licenses and on the other sie, BSD people claim the GPL isn't free enough. But it's the same there, the main concept behind all of these licenses are, that you can read and change the code. That's what makes these systems strong.
If you use su or sudo you can log (to a remote syslog server) who (which linux user) has su'ed/used sudo to become root.
If someone logs in directly as root from tty2 you don't know who did that.
Never thought of that. But probably because I have not plans to log to a syslog server from my laptop
Even though Android is Linux at the core, does anyone else see Android/google just becoming the next Microsoft? Software sold cheaply on mass devices to people who don't care about the underlying tech. They won't be "our" people.
The majority of the people will always be like that. And in a free market, the offers companies make will always try to meet a demand.... And in this respect Google is just another company making money - which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Why that? You start a login shell as a different user, in this case root. I don't see the big difference to switching to tty2 and giving login: root (or is there a difference?)
To use "su" you have to know a user login and the root password. To login as root you only have to guess the root password since you already know the username. That's why it makes sense to allow su but to disable root login from the login prompt.
what's going on here, everyone agreeing and shit. root login allowance is offered as an option in the debian installer, and i'm sure on other distros too
Actually, I don't know any other distro besides Ubuntu that doesn't allow su by default. The last time I used Debian they had su by default as well.
On Fedora, sudo doesn't even work by default
su and root login are two different things.
On most of my systems root login is deactivated anyway. Whenever I need to do something as root - as editing a config file in /etc and so on - I use either 'su' or 'sudo' where installed to achieve that.
That's exactly what I would advice new users to do. I haven't use Gnome and the like for ages, but I faintly remember that there is even a graphical "sudo"-thingy that pops up whenever you try to configure something that need root access.
So a beautiful environment and a successful economy ... TANJ
More or less successful till the economy starts to feel the pain of an expensive Swiss franc.
And the banking industry starts to feel the pressure of countries that - for some inexplicable - don't like their people hiding money from taxes on Swiss banks.
The next few years are definitely going to be quite interesting. It's not all roses here.
I have visited Switzerland once. It is a beautiful country. We stayed at a nice hotel in Kandersteg, and made day trips to a lot of different places.
Parts of Switzerland are beautiful - like the area around Kandersteg, or the area around Schwyz (ok, I'm biased on that one ). But there are parts that I really don't like. Basically every part without mountains - especially Zurich.
But at the moment no one is visiting Switzerland anyway. It got bloody expensive with the rising Swiss franc.
Yeah I would like something like that over here.
But... the european market is probably too fragmented. Too many laws, too many languages. Too much hassle, too little profit.
Yeah, probably. I would be happy to have Netflix in English. I only watch movies in the original language anyway (with subtitles if it's a language I don't understand.... which means basically all except German and English). I don't watch TV because it's mostly crap and definitely not worth the high fees you have to pay to some bloody half private agency in Switzerland. Until something that allows me to avoid these fees (like Netflix) comes to Switzerland, I'll be buying and renting DVDs and Blurays.
We're getting too spread out I think. 1/3 of us here, 1/3 on identi.ca, 1/3 on G+. I miss the good'ol days when the forum was a buzz every night with conversations. Oh well, time marches on.
Ok, gotta pull this one in for tomorrow during work.
Forums seem to be dying all over the web. Blame Facebook >:/
Apple and Microsoft play this game every year it seems ..... Patent trolling isn't cutting it lets us get some kicks from fussing about a design and who's it is or who stole it from who, when and where.
Man if the auto industry did this I would be riding a horse to work.
LOL, imagine you had to pay royalties to the inventor of the wheel if you want to use a circle shaped wheel....
Agreed sixthwheel. I'll miss browsing around book stores. How else are we supposed to stumble on a good find or make an impulse buy?
Basically I agree. But still, I'm pretty good at impulse buying books on Amazon. Suppose I could do the same with E-books if I had a reader for it.
I'm really impressed by the grml zsh config, I'm using it on my Arch box. One thing bugs me - it's autocomplete is case insensitive . . . any know how to change that? RTFMing and googling hasn't gotten me anywhere yet, nor has looking at the source . . . is 3000+ lines long!
I don't think it's in the configfile. I use the grml .zshrc and my autocomplete isn't case sensitive....